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In this writing we are going to examine the position of women in the church. The purpose is to examine what the Bible says about it, to examine verses that in some way are connected with this issue. We examine verses from both the New and the Old Testament. We will also examine some practical examples.

   First we are going to examine our greatest need, whether we are spiritual workers or not. It is important that this need is met in everyone’s life because all other needs are small compared to it.




Regarding spiritual life and eternity, it is most important that we are born again, we walk in faith, we have been forgiven, and we have fellowship with God. This concerns both spiritual workers and those who are not engaged in spiritual work. Someone who is a member of a congregation might still not have experienced these things but can be outside of them and on his way to damnation. In other words, we could be members of a congregation, could have the education of a priest, or we could come from a believing home, but still be outside of the kingdom of God. We may also have strong opinions about spiritual issues and the status of women in the congregation without the understanding of what saving faith is.

   Let’s study a related quote. Niilo Yli-Vainio wrote about people who want to seem Christian but who completely lack inner experience. They are unable to give a definite answer to the question of whether or not they are saved.


 In the course of my spiritual work, I must have asked thousands of people if they were believers. An ordinary sinner admits, “Not yet.” But the convert beats about the bush and does not give a direct answer to a direct question. He wants to be a Christian but he lacks the internal experience. That is why he cannot really even lie properly. He does not want to deny – nor admit – that something in his innermost says that there is not assurance of what they have been talking about.

   Often the convert bases his faith on the supposed faith of his father or mother, on the church or on some Christian action or deeds, such as the baptism of child or partaking of the Communion. (1)


Are we in the faith? Based on the previous information, one should ask oneself the following question: “Am I in faith?” This question was asked from of some well-known an influential members of the Church (magazine Kotimaa 26 July 2007), and some of them were unable to give an unambiguous answer. This shows that issues of faith were in the dark for these people.

   However, we might ask how anyone could be a spiritual worker if he cannot answer positively even this basic question. For example, Pietism and other revivalist movements in Finland were born just because people wanted to be personally aware of the issue. Paavo Ruotsalainen and the other leaders of Pietism would certainly not be well-known now if they had stopped halfway here. They wanted to know how to be saved and to be in faith, because it is written: “Examine yourselves, whether you be in the faith; prove your own selves.” (2 Cor 13:5).

   Therefore, regarding your own life, ask yourself whether or not you are really in faith, whether you have been forgiven, whether you have the assurance of salvation and Christ in your heart, or whether your faith is only theoretical and rational? It is good to present these questions to yourself because there is no use to take a stand on spiritual issues if you do not yet understand the main issues of faith and are outside salvation. We have to first reach a clear understanding, so that we can advise others later.

   Let us look at a passage that addresses rational versus trusting faith. There is a difference between these two approaches. The person in the account stood in theoretical and rational faith for a long time but then he understood that it did not take his work to connect with God. You should also think about what your state is before God, right now:


(...) This is why people demanded that one could not be in faith before having to accept doctrines, doctrines, DOCTRINES of the Gospel as a precondition for faith. But I had been guided to accept these doctrines rationally and firmly before my conversion. I was also told that I had to believe, and I answered that I do believe – and any claim or speech could not convince me that I did not believe the Gospel. And I was not and neither could be convinced of my mistake up to the moment of my conversion.

   At the moment of my conversion or when I first time practiced faith, I saw my disastrous mistake. I noticed that faith is not a rational conviction of that the truths about Christ in the Bible are true but it is trust of heart in the person of Christ. I learned that God’s witness of Christ had to lead me to trust in Christ, to believe in Him as my Saviour, and that mere believing in the doctrines of Christ was a fateful mistake, which unavoidably left me to my sins. (...) Besides firm rational conviction being directed to His willingness and abilities, it would also be of utmost importance to go to Him, turn to Him and trust Him… (2)


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Jari Iivanainen



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