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Letter to the representatives of Seta -organization



Letter to the representatives of Seta -organization, that is, how society has changed its attitude toward homosexuality, as predicted in the prophecies



The following letter was sent to the representatives of Seta. It is mainly concerned with children’s well-being and adult choices. I wrote about this topic also in the text titled Gender-neutral marriage and children.


Dear representatives of Seta!


I am a former atheist and evolutionist, but now I believe in Jesus Christ. I also write from this perspective.

When I used to believe that the universe and life came to be on their own and that earth is hundreds of millions of years old, I now consider these beliefs to be nothing but fiction, lies and fairytales. I used to think I was wise to believe in these ideas, but now they seem silly. I only understood these things on a surface level. I have also written about these topics on my webpage. If you wish to read more about evolution, you can find my writings there. Good texts to start with include the following, e.g.:

- When did dinosaurs live?

- Why there hasn’t been evolution of man

- Main focus on imaginary perceptions


I have also in my texts written about a topic near to you; homosexuality. I understand that homosexuality is about an emotional need created during childhood and youth. Research into this has revealed the following underlying factors to be common in the lives of homosexuals (trans people often share similar experiences). First, we are going to look at the lives of men:


- Rejection from father. Many men have had a difficult relationship with their father growing up. Their father might have been short-tempered, distant, indifferent, or one might have lost their father at a young age.


- Other male figures. One might have experienced rejection from their peers, or they might have had brothers who were more favored and were more successful.


- Mother’s influence. A mother who constantly badmouths her husband is detrimental. Similarly, her separating the children from the father, and tying them to her only, has also been proven to be a detrimental factor.


- The parents have wished for a girl instead of a boy and expressed their disappointment, since their wish did not come true.


- Sexual abuse by the same sex is common.


What about homosexuality in women? There, the most crucial factor seems to be the girl’s difficult relationship with her mother, or that she has lost her mother at a young age. A study observed the following:


The study by Marcel T. Saghiri and Eli Robins (1973) was not based on a patient sample; instead, they recruited their homosexual interviewees through homosexual organisations. They noted that 27% of lesbians and 2% of heterosexual women had lost their mother before the age of 10. The relationship between lesbian women and their mothers had often been broken or was distant or indifferent. However, they had a warm relationship with their father. (1)


A person involved in spiritual support work has also referred to this:


I now understood that emotional emptiness which made Lisa especially sensitive and had caused her to easily drift into a relationship with her lesbian teacher. Lesbian behavior (except when it is a question of a hysterical personality) as a sexual neurosis is not as complicated as homosexual behavior in men. According to my experience, it is generally caused by the need to climb into the mother's lap that was not fulfilled at all or not enough in childhood. (2)


Thus, I understand homosexuality is about an emotional need, which has been created during childhood and youth. It is a natural need to receive acceptance from the same sex – acceptance or friendship, which they have not experienced. There is nothing wrong in this need for acceptance, in my opinion, and it would be great if this need were met with good friendships. Unfortunately, that is not always the case, as we live in a world that is not perfect.

I also think that it is crossing the line between right and wrong when we give in to lust and start sexual relations. In light of the Bible, sex is only allowed between a married man and a woman, but other sexual relations – whether it be hetero -or homosexual affairs – are wrong. We can see that from the following verses, e.g.:


- (1 Cor 6:9,10) Know you not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God?  Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortionists, shall inherit the kingdom of God.


- (1 Cor 7:1-5) Now concerning the things whereof you wrote to me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.

3 Let the husband render to the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife to the husband.

4 The wife has not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband has not power of his own body, but the wife.

5 Defraud you not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that you may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.


I understand that you might be reluctant about spiritual matters, but what if the following verses are true after all. If anything, one should not overlook them. I also realize that many have spoken unskillfully about these matters, and I don’t claim to be any better. I ask that you forgive our imperfectness. I am far from being perfect and so are so many others.

I would thus urge you to familiarize yourself with Jesus rather than with people of today, and to read about Him, as it is clear He loved people. He is the only way to God (John 14:6: Jesus said to him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by me.), forgiveness of sins (Acts 13:38: Be it known to you therefore, men and brothers, that through this man is preached to you the forgiveness of sins) and He is the good shepherd (John 10:11: I am the good shepherd:…). However, He also said that everyone must repent. Hardening our souls will not do us any good:


- (Luke 13:3) but, except you repent, you shall all likewise perish.


Most importantly I write to you because of human rights. It is known that Seta and homosexual organizations aim to present themselves as human rights advocates, but I think that they have failed at it when it comes to children. Homosexual relationships where children are acquired through artificial methods (infertility treatments, sperm banks, surrogacy) or through temporary heterosexual affairs are the most pressing. Both situations leave the child without one of his or her biological parents. The child is left fatherless or motherless just to satisfy adult desires. The following aspects should be considered:


Children’s identity issues and need for the absent parent. If a child is brought into this world through artificial methods or through temporary heterosexual affairs in homosexual relationships, subsequently, the child will not have one of his or her biological parents, either the mother or the father. The child is purposefully stripped from one of his or her parents and the opportunity to grow up with the care of his or her both biological parents. 

What are the consequences of putting adult’s freedom and sexual preferences before children’s basic rights to know their biological parents and to have a chance to grow up in their care?

We have enough information about this issue, because many abandoned children have openly expressed their yearning for the absent parent, whether it be the father or the mother. For instance, many TV-shows tell stories of the children who want to find their missing biological parent no longer present in their lives. They yearn to find their roots and meet the missing biological mother or father.

The following quotations relate to the subject. They demonstrate the kinds of identity issues children might have due to infertility treatments. Many children born as a result of those treatments have openly expressed their identity problems and their longing to meet their biological father (the sperm donor) who they have never met.


Katrina Clark was born to a single mother who used artificial insemination and an unknown donor. The mother always told her daughter openly about it, and they had a close and loving relationship. However, as she grew older, the daughter began to struggle with identity issues and began to observe her friends who had both parents. In a column he wrote for the Washington Post at the age of 20, he writes: “That’s when the feeling of emptiness took over. I realized I was in a sense a weirdness. I would never have a father. I finally understood what it means to be a child produced with the help of an anonymous donor, and I hated it. ” (3)


Violating the rights to know one’s origin causes serious identity problems, as told by the 22 year old Narelle Crech, who was brought into this world by a detached sperm donor: “In my opinion it shows unawareness and cruelty when adults create children with the help of outsider donors, when they know that these children cannot trace their biological mothers. - - How can anyone take away one’s right to know themselves. This has been the most violating experience to my humanity in my life. One of the worst feelings is having to look in the mirror every day and having so many questions. - - One day the world will come to look at these human experiments with disgust.” (Grech; sit. Somerville 2007:184.)

Heather Barwick writes that the absence of her father created a massive void inside her: “Every day I was hurting from missing my father. I loved my mother’s partner, but another mother could not replace the loss of my father.” (4)


Ethicalness of the methods. Producing children through artificial methods is ethically questionable.

For instance, the issue with assisted reproductive technology is that fertilized eggs are produced out of many which are redundant. This leads to their death, meaning it is an early abortion.

Surrogacy is also problematic because it exploits the poverty of women in developing countries. It is a form of human trafficking involved with buying and selling children. Moreover, it, like artificial insemination, causes difficult identity problems to children. Children are from the beginning forced to live apart from one of their biological parents. Children have to live without one of their biological parents because of adults’ choices.


Julia Bindel, a lesbian feminist who has for years fought for homosexual rights, criticizes the “dark side” of surrogacy: “Its increasing popularity among homosexual couples is not a victory for freedom. On the contrary, the child revolution of homosexuals has led to a disturbing shift towards brutal exploitation of women. These women who often come from developing countries are pressured or sold to rent their wombs so that rich Westerners could satisfy their selfish needs. This cruelty comes with grand hypocrisy. Europeans and Americans who would be appalled at the idea of taking part in human -and sex trafficking, are also involved with the grotesque ‘reproduction market’.” (Bindel 2015.)

… According to Edelman (2015: 148-149) the realities of the inhumane practices in surrogacy will be revealed in the future: “Here is my prediction. Children who have been bought, sold and produced to satisfy adult impulses, will have their voices heard in the future. They will place their experiences in a new framework. Future classrooms are shown video material of the Pride parades, like we today show footage of the Nünberg rallies. The teachers will explain: ’Yes, people did sell and buy women and children.’ The children will listen to this with their eyes wide open from astonishment, like pupils of today as they watch those awful war parades.” (5)


The importance of gender to adults, but what about children? When talking about gender-neutral marriage and children, it is typical that for adults it is seen as an important factor, but not as important to children. It is not seen as important that a child has parents of both genders. Anthony Esolen brings attention to this inconsistency, where adult feelings and desires take on a more important role than children’s feelings:


We cannot at the same time say: ‘Gender of a child’s parents does not matter’, and immediately say that adults’ sleeping partner has so much importance that there is no way they can adjust their lifestyle to be more natural. A son does not need a father, since gender does not matter. But his mother needs a ’wife’, and we cannot expect her to take a husband, because in this case gender does natter more than anything else in the entire universe. (6)


What about concepts of love and equality, which often come up in discussions about gender-neutral marriage? Are we dealing with self-sacrificing love, or is it selfishness, because we take away a child’s right to either their mother or father? Robert Oscar Lopez, who grew up in a lesbian home, comments on this kind of rhetoric:


We can often hear that same-sex couples have loving homes and that they love their children. This does not convince me, because love means making sacrifices for the one you love, and not excepting the other to sacrifice for you. If you are a homosexual and you love your child, you will either sacrifice your homosexuality and raise the child in a home where they will have a mother and a father, or you will give up your dream of becoming a parent and accept the fact that adoptive children will be given to homes which have a mother and a father. If a child is an orphan, a special needs child, or an abandoned child in social institution, they need both a mother and a father more than anyone, because they need stability, and normality because of the traumas they have had. You cannot ask a child to sacrifice something so universal as a mother and a father for you own sake. (7)


Therefore, I ask you, dear representatives of Seta, to help children and work for their human rights. The media respects and appreciates you, but few speak for children’s human rights. I hope that you take action and also consider human rights of children, their right to a mother and a father. If not, many might see Seta marching for selfish causes ignoring children and their well-being.



Jari Iivanainen






Dear members of Seta! I will end here with a prediction, which also applies to you and to your actions, coming from 43 years ago. It is from the famous book The Vision by David Wilkerson. This book predicted the current development decades ago, development where homosexuality gains more acceptance in society and in the church. In this sense, your hopes and aspirations will come true. These trends seemed rather distant in 1973, but now they begin to be our reality. Now, going back to 1973, when David Wilkerson received his vision of what is to come.


I see high church accepting gays and lesbians as members in a disguised “understanding”. Leaders of the church defend gay and lesbian love, not only welcoming it but also encouraging people to practice it.

Gay and lesbian priests are appointed and given influential roles in this church union, and they are welcomed as new innovators who present new concepts of love and the gospel.

I see gay and lesbian churches coming to nearly every large city in the United States and elsewhere in the world also, and they only take care of their own spiritual needs and also receive total recognition and support from organized religion. Curriculum contains literature of Sunday school and the church, telling children and teens that homosexuality is a normal acceptable form of sexual life for a Christian.

The most saddening part is that I see the coming day when homosexuals no longer seek help from the church. Instead, the high church defends and admires them for their bravery and willingness to be different. This high church adapts to the weaknesses of the flesh and begins to encourage the mankind to sin. Old-fashioned preachers condemning sin are being blamed for the guilt complex, because they say directly what they think of the actions of people needing help and advice. People are educated through new doctrines to live with their problems and to even enjoy their weaknesses as the “gifts of God”.


"There are two forces that prevent gays from dedicating themselves completely to their sin: society does not accept them and the church's teachings are against them. But these barriers will disappear when society no longer resists their sin and deems it abnormal, but on the contrary encourages them to continue, and when the church no longer preaches about their sin but supports them in their sexual activities. The floodgates will open, and the gays will be encouraged to continue in their sin. I have seen in my vision that these two obstacles will be wiped away and when they are taken away, chaos will follow."

Believe me, when I tell you that the time is near when you can read from the newspaper, how wild homosexual groups have attacked innocent children in parks and on the streets. Group raping will emerge, as predicted in the gospel. I see these things coming during our generation…

You can expect many homosexual scandals in highly prestigious places. The community of homosexuals will become so belligerent and arrogant that they will soon flaunt their sins on TV programs.






1. Ari Puonti: Homoseksuaalisuus – hämmennyksestä selkeyteen, p. 101

2. Leanne Payne: Särkynyt minäkuva, p.30

3. Tapio Puolimatka: Yhteiskuntakoe lapsilla?, p. 109

4 Tapio Puolimatka: Jälkikristillisen maailman kauhut, p. 95

5 Tapio Puolimatka: Jälkikristillisen maailman kauhut, p. 100

6. Anthony Esolen: Defending Marriage: Twelve Arguments for Sanity (2014), Charlotte, NC: Saint Benedict Press, p. 149

7. Robert Oscar Lopez, p. 114



More on this topic:

Gender-neutral marriage and children, ie how children's human rights are trampled on when they are denied the right to their biological parents - using as a reason human rights and equality of adults

Homosexuality and being freed from it. What causes homosexuality, its underlying factors and can one get rid of it?

Homosexuality, church and society. Today, homosexuality is not considered a sin and a lust. It is justified in the name of love and equality. Development in society affects also churches

Sexuality, love, equality. Sexuality, love and equality - is all sexual behavior right?

Read how the false teaching about sexuality that the Sexpo Foundation promotes increases the suffering of children in particular. 












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Grap to eternal life!


More on this topic:

Gender-neutral marriage and children, ie how children's human rights are trampled on when they are denied the right to their biological parents - using as a reason human rights and equality of adults

Homosexuality and being freed from it. What causes homosexuality, its underlying factors and can one get rid of it?

Homosexuality, church and society. Today, homosexuality is not considered a sin and a lust. It is justified in the name of love and equality. Development in society affects also churches

Sexuality, love, equality. Sexuality, love and equality - is all sexual behavior right?

Read how the false teaching about sexuality that the Sexpo Foundation promotes increases the suffering of children in particular.